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BIOENGINEERING
INTERVIEW
From
ASSEMBLY AND CREATIVITY:
An Interview with Three Founders of Caltech's Newest Option.
Spring 2002
ENGENIOUS:
What's the Bioengineering Option all about?
GHARIB:
I think one can claim the Caltech version has converged with something
that we think will address very certain principles of bioengineering,
biosynthesis and biomimetics, and learn from nature's design,
to come up with physics, analysis, and better devices. But you
know, we can't just jump into it. You cannot just mimic nature.
You have to first understand it. You have to mimic both function
and, for example, geometry, in terms of reality. So, that's why
we put together this program. It's not 100% complete, but there
are different aspects that require a strong synergy between biology,
engineering, chemistry, chemical engineering, and physics. Paul
and Steve can add to this from their perspectives...
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A
microfabricated rotary pump device. Such a device consists
of two layers: fluid channels on the bottom and pneumatic
actuatution channels on top. Fluid channels are 100 µm
wide and 10 µm high. Two applications based on this
rotary pump have been demonstrated: efficient on-chip fixed-volume
and continuous flow mixing of two streams; and accelerated
sensitivity in a surface binding assay.

A
1.5 mm long zebrafish (Danio rerio) embryo 48 hours
post fertilization. Analysis of intracardiac fluid dynamics
of the early embryonic heart may represent a useful approach
to understand the interplay between physical forces, developmental
gene expression, and cardiac pathogenesis.
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STERNBERG:
As an experimental biologist, I'm trying to reverse engineer nature,
to look at these organisms, to figure out how they do the wonderful
things they do. And at some point, you say, we think we understand
how it works. But, the proof of that understanding is turning
it into engineering. And really, that's part of the excitement
hereto demonstrate that for certain systems, whether they
be molecular systems or gadgets, we can make something that's
new.
QUAKE:
Bioengineering at Caltech is M.S.G.: molecules, systems, and gadgets.
Those are the three broad categories that capture what the central
people in our Option are doing. In the area of molecules, we have
some really clever and sharp faculty who are interested in this
problem of molecular design, particularly for biological molecules.
So Nature, the tinkerer and the designer, she's handed us 200,000
proteins to play with, but people at Caltech aren't satisfied
with that. They're trying to come up with very clever ways to
make new molecules. We have a very strong group in this respect.
It's cool because they have a nice interplay between biology and
engineering. For example, one of the ways Frances
Arnold [Dickinson Professor of Chemical Engineering and Biochemistry]
tries to design is to design by using evolution, which is not
something that's in a normal engineering tool kit. But she's taking
the principles of biological evolution and applying them to protein
design.
Guys
like Steve
Mayo [Associate Professor of Biology and Chemistry; Associate
Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute] are trying to use
very sophisticated computational methods to do evolutionary design.
Systems engineers are good at making systems and have worked out
a number of principles for doing that. Nature has done it, too,
but historically biologists just haven't really appreciated that
part of nature's designs. This has become a very interesting area
to look at: to try to understand how biological systems function
as a whole. Many people think that maybe nature uses similar design
principles that engineers have worked out and they're trying to
push that analogy and see how far it will take them.

GHARIB:
These collaborations between biologists and engineers are not
new. They work together on devices and approaches to systems.
All the devices that helped the genomic revolution were designed
by engineers and biologists working together. But, now that we
have sequenced DNA, we ask ourselves how to put it back together
in order to reconstruct big molecules, and eventually organs and
systems.

Medical
robot prototype. The goal of this device is to access, in
a minimally invasive fashion the portions of the small intestine
that cannot be accessed by conventional endoscopes. |
QUAKE:
The third area is gadgets. That's what engineers do--they make
gadgets. And again we have a very strong group at Caltech. Guys
like Mory are trying to take lessons from nature and look at the
fundamental physics of how nature makes devices. How a growing
heart develops, and how a heart pumps.
GHARIB:
How does nature pump in general?
QUAKE:
So he's trying to look at nature, understand what nature does
and then try to engineer man-made gadgets that use those principles.
Because in many cases, they're actually quite transposable and
useful.
ENGENIOUS:
So it's a very different viewpoint from a strict engineering perspective.

GHARIB:
That's right. And also different from other bioengineering or
biomedical programs because most of them try to build the pump
that works inside someone's body. They build micro-fluidic devices
without looking at the concept in nature. They have good solutions,
but that's different from what we're trying to do.
ENGENIOUS:
Look at nature and work backwards? So you're taking a much more
biologically focused approach?
STERNBERG:
Philosophically biological in approach, yes, but the outcomes
might be different. You don't actually have to make it look like
something in nature. You could use the principle, a design principle,
and then come up with something new.
QUAKE:
There's a very famous example of that which was done here at Caltech
in the '80s. Done by the CNS group [Computation & Neural Systems],
right? The general idea was trying to understand how the brain
computes. The mathematical, physical modelsneural networkswere
sort of discovered and explored, and the pioneers were here. At
the end of the day, I think they weren't that useful for understanding
biology, but the principles that came out of them have found a
number of applications in the engineering world. And so you'll
find neural nets all over the place now as a computational tool.
It's something that was inspired by biology, but it's got applications
in engineering.
STERNBERG:
But again, the interface is pretty interesting. Here's a little
historical project that led to gadgets: Shuki Bruck [Gordon and
Betty Moore Professor of Computation and Neural Systems and Electrical
Engineering], some students, and I were trying to model certain
aspects of development and function of a worm we were working
on. We realized immediately that we were not collecting data fast
enough. To get a good model you need a great deal of data. And
the biologists, you know, are used to painstakingly doing it by
themselves without any gadgets.

So
we started to design something that could look at the worm to
see how it wiggles, and where it moves in a sine-like wave. We
developed a system that's proven to be very useful to quantitatively
obtain information about what the worm looks like as a function
of time. We could see how it wiggles and you can basically use
that information to do the genetics of a sine-like wave, and try
to model it.
QUAKE:
Science always advances on gadgets. There's a long history of
this. You can look in physics how it's happened. Physics in the
20th century has been driven by essentially two big projects from
World War II. One is the radar lab at MIT. The development of
microwave radar led to the development of the maser, development
of the laser, atomic clocks, the precision frequency standards,
high precision tests of QED [quantum electro-dynamics]. You can
trace it all very clearly back to the development of laser technology.
And likewise Los Alamos had a huge influence on the development
of particle physics.
GHARIB:
Every time you have a new device, it leads to new understanding
and, boom, new information comes.
STERNBERG:
Much of this is on the analytical side and that's very useful.
And then as you start to build things, you can say, all right,
we have this device which has part of a living organism. Now we
can start engineering. We can use things that we know that we've
done in the laboratory to make this organism do something to our
specifications. It's a very different kind of approach and there
are some simple things you may find out that you never even asked
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